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Зебе
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Jul 23 2013, 08:10 PM
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Виновны ли игроки , в обоих вариантах- и авторы отчета и кто хвалит их в коментариях, и игроки которые терпели это?
Виноваты ли мастера создавшие такую игру и такие ситуации допустившие?


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Jul 23 2013, 10:07 PM
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Я вот уже прочитал это на маноре.
Вот только сейчас почему-то ЖЖ лежит.

В целом - две плохих крайности ролевого движения. Ну, может, три, если считать мастеров.


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Лео
Jul 24 2013, 06:32 AM
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QUOTE(Зебе @ Jul 24 2013, 12:10 AM)
https://vk.com/topic-42402353_28716406
Виновны ли игроки , в обоих вариантах- и авторы отчета и кто хвалит их в коментариях, и игроки которые терпели это?
Виноваты ли мастера создавшие такую игру и такие ситуации допустившие?
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С мастеров вины никто снять не может.
А вот таких игроков почему и зачем на игры еще берут, непонятно.


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Jul 24 2013, 06:38 AM
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QUOTE(Зебе @ Jul 24 2013, 12:10 AM)
https://vk.com/topic-42402353_28716406
Виновны ли игроки , в обоих вариантах- и авторы отчета и кто хвалит их в коментариях, и игроки которые терпели это?
Виноваты ли мастера создавшие такую игру и такие ситуации допустившие?
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А авторов отчета берут на Вархаммер, хотелось бы узнать?


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Corsair
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Jul 25 2013, 11:17 AM
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Присоединюсь к вопросу Лео.

Ну и, наверное, как мастер отвечу на вопрос ЗБ. На крупной игре у мастера есть деньги на охрану и он должен принять волевое решение и таких людей с игры удалить. Но с этим есть сложности и дальше ниже.

На небольшой игре денег на охрану нет, а люди с любовью проводить время таким образом приезжают и туда. Кстати, у меня полное ощущение, что эти же парни устроили забрасывание мусором мастеров на Равенлофте. И вот что делать на небольшой игре - абсолютно непонятно. Хорошо, когда есть приехавшие помочь друзья, но такое бывает не всегда. Будут ли игроки бросать свою игру и заниматься такой проблемой? Я помню такие истории из 90х, а вот из 2000ных уже не помню, т.к. возникла определённая системная проблема.

Дело в том, что пьяные или не очень люди, портящие другим игру, всегда оказываются чьими-то друзьями, а в последние годы ещё и имеют некоторое количество позитивной интернет-славы, мол "пеши исчо". Всегда есть мастера, которые говорят "на моих играх они не косячат" и так далее. Поэтому косячники чувствуют свою безнаказанность, а каждый из тех, кто хочет собраться с силами их удалить, ощущает, что местами будет плевать против ветра.

Я вот понял, что ничего с этой системой сделать не могу, поэтому для нашей игры на полигон организовал, пусть и дорого и с геммороем, милицию и заранее принял все жёсткие решения. Но вот что делать на чужих играх как игрок - до сих пор не знаю.


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Лео
Jul 25 2013, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(Corsair @ Jul 25 2013, 03:17 PM)
Кстати, у меня полное ощущение, что эти же парни устроили забрасывание мусором мастеров на Равенлофте.
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Jul 25 2013, 02:31 PM
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Автор отчета, кстати, едет на УвИ.
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Jul 26 2013, 02:15 AM
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QUOTE(Sare @ Jul 25 2013, 05:31 PM)
Автор отчета, кстати, едет на УвИ.
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В целом, я подумал, с Архангельцами они нормально должны сойтись.
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Jul 26 2013, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(Sare @ Jul 25 2013, 06:31 PM)
Автор отчета, кстати, едет на УвИ.
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А вы, кстати, гордитесь, тем что к вам едет такой известный и почитаемый игрок?)
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Jul 26 2013, 09:48 PM
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Мммм... а лучше Ван напомни кого ты знаешь, чтобы удалили с игр ЛвН?

:0))))))

В любом случае он должен доехать, чтобы сдать взнос. :0)) А зато если не сдаст, то удобный повод чтобы попереть его оттедова будет. :0)))))


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Jul 27 2013, 10:57 PM
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Автор отчёта когда-то и к нам на "Валахию" (2007) приезжал (Розешти/Данешти), и, в целом, вполне способен быть адекватным. Но в провоцирующей ситуации, и при отсутствии рядом твёрдой руки, указующей, что уместно, а что всё-таки уже нет, может слетать с катушек описанным в отчёте образом, да.
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