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Все форумы _ Ночь в тоскливом октябре _ Вопросы по игре

Автор: Мистик Jan 28 2012, 07:27 PM

МГ хранит верность своим принципам. Заявление открыто задолго до появления паблик версии правил. Отсюда вопросы:

1. Когда появятся правила по игре? Особенно интересны правила по магии.
2. Будет ли "рассчетная" часть для ключевых точек? Если "да", на каких принципах она будет основана?
(если сам не потяну, нужно будет подыскивать фамильяра-рассчетчика)
3.Какие требования к фамильярам предъявляются.
(нужно знать, на что заманивать людей)
4.Будет ли реальная боевка или "фехтование сертификатами"? Чем будет моделироваться техногенное/паропанковское оружие?

Автор: Jolaf Jan 29 2012, 09:36 AM

QUOTE(Мистик @ Jan 28 2012, 11:27 PM)
Будет ли "рассчетная" часть для ключевых точек?

Да.

QUOTE(Мистик @ Jan 28 2012, 11:27 PM)
Если "да", на каких принципах она будет основана?

На школьной геометрии, построения циркулем и линейкой на карте полигона.

QUOTE(Мистик @ Jan 28 2012, 11:27 PM)
Будет ли реальная боевка или "фехтование сертификатами"?

Реальная.

QUOTE(Мистик @ Jan 28 2012, 11:27 PM)
Чем будет моделироваться техногенное/паропанковское оружие?

Пока всё идёт к тому, что нерфами/эдисонами.

Автор: Мистик Feb 1 2012, 07:50 PM

Спасибо за отсеты.

QUOTE(Jolaf @ Jan 29 2012, 09:36 AM)
На школьной геометрии, построения циркулем и линейкой на карте полигона.
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Хм. Давненько я закончил школу. В том числе и высшую.

Пример, илюстрирующий необходимую глубину познаний и алгоритм действий можно?

Автор: Jolaf Feb 2 2012, 12:05 PM

Если совсем вкратце, то нужно уметь строить прямую по двум точкам, окружность в заданной точке заданного радиуса, строить середину заданного отрезка. Повторять это много раз в разных местах на одном листе бумаги, делать это аккуратно, не ошибаться, не путаться.

Окончательно решение пока не принято (нужно учесть особенности конкретного полигона), обсуждение различных вариантов происходило здесь: http://forum.rpg.ru/index.php?showtopic=112184

По нашим предположениям, полный расчёт по имеющимся исходным данным будет занимать минут 30, сбор исходных данных - несколько часов, но это уже собственно ролевая игра.

Автор: Мистик Feb 3 2012, 06:19 PM

QUOTE(Jolaf @ Feb 2 2012, 12:05 PM)
Если совсем вкратце, то нужно уметь строить прямую по двум точкам, окружность в заданной точке заданного радиуса, строить середину заданного отрезка. Повторять это много раз в разных местах на одном листе бумаги, делать это аккуратно, не ошибаться, не путаться.

Окончательно решение пока не принято (нужно учесть особенности конкретного полигона), обсуждение различных вариантов происходило здесь: http://forum.rpg.ru/index.php?showtopic=112184

По нашим предположениям, полный расчёт по имеющимся исходным данным будет занимать минут 30, сбор исходных данных - несколько часов, но это уже собственно ролевая игра.
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Спасибо за информацию. Теперь есть надежда, что справлюсь сам и примерно понятно, кого звать петом.

Новые вопросы:

1. Так ли важен сугубо геометрический метод?

2. Осилит ли МГ более ролевой подход, из 3 этапов (пишу здесь, т.к. он не геометрический):

а) Поиск компонентов, вполне обычный для ПРПГ. Естественно, компоненты у каждого свои, как в Источнике.

б) Объединение компонентов по заданному принципу.
Пример объединения компонентов (без задания принципа): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRQvwLlZJR8&feature=youtu.be

в) Игроки, правильно интерпритировавшие сочетание компонентов в п/п б) получают от мастеров право входа в финальный данж.

Минус предложенного подхода: От мастеров потребуется чуть больше интеллектуальных усилий при предэгровой подготовке.

Плюсы предложенного подхода очевидны:

-Во главу угла игры будет поставлена смекалка ролевого игрока, а не навыки инженера-проектировщика/топографа.
-Игроки, у которых плохо с черчением/геометрией в РЛ, смогут принимать участие в "рассчетной" части;
-Игрокам, у которых нормально/хорошо/замечательно с черчением/геометрией не нужно будет чертить/высчитывать в неподходящих условиях: в лесу, ночью, без кульмана, в дождь;
-Игроки будут защищены от поломки содержимого готовален, по которым тупо попали текстолитовым мечем. На постсоветском пространстве трудно найти циркули, которые выдержат такое обращение, а носиться по полигону с тубусом - удовольствие ниже среднего;
-Мастерам не придется париться с привязкой к местности;
-Игра будет стойка к внезапной экстренной смене полигона, при возникновении проблем с местными властями/мента... господами из полиции. А ведь в последние годы всякое бывает.

Автор: Jolaf Feb 3 2012, 06:37 PM

QUOTE(Мистик @ Feb 3 2012, 10:19 PM)
Так ли важен сугубо геометрический метод?

Мы считаем его одной из ценных фишек первоисточника.

QUOTE(Мистик @ Feb 3 2012, 10:19 PM)
Осилит ли МГ более ролевой подход

МГ могла бы осилить, но не станет. Потому что не считает предложенный вами подход "более ролевым", а также потому, что ей нравится тот, который мы уже выбрали.

"Смекалка ролевого игрока", как вы это называете, там будет нужна в других аспектах. Никаких особых сложных навыков требоваться не будет. Привязка к местности нам также кажется клёвой фишкой, а от смены полигона мы будем подстраховываться другим способом.

Автор: Мистик Feb 3 2012, 06:57 PM

Ок. Спасибо за ответы. smile.gif

Остался первый по списку и не последний по значению:

QUOTE
Когда примерно появятся правила по игре? Особенно интересны правила по магии.


Все еще не вижу возможности заявляться на игру, с правилами которой не согласен. А согласиться с ними невозможно, не прочитав хотя бы предварительной версии.

Автор: Мэл Feb 3 2012, 08:19 PM

QUOTE(Мистик @ Feb 3 2012, 09:57 PM)
Ок. Спасибо за ответы.  smile.gif

Остался первый по списку и не последний по значению:
Все еще не вижу возможности заявляться на игру, с правилами которой не согласен. А согласиться с ними невозможно, не прочитав хотя бы предварительной версии.
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Интересуют открытые (общедоступные) или закрытые правила по магии?
Открытые правила появятся в ближайшее время, они будут довольно просты и, по большому счету, сводться к к тому, что если вам сказали, что с вами что-то случилось, имеет смысл поверить или попросить показать сертификат.

С закрытыми немного сложнее. Они появятся, по моим оценкам, в течение месяца-полутора. Если ваш персонаж - магоюзер, и вас срочно интересуют какие-то конкретные моменты - пишите лично, постараемся обговорить общую схему.

Автор: Мистик Mar 22 2012, 04:20 PM

Спасибо за ответы.

Однако волею обстоятельств, май стал для меня месяцем семейных обстоятельств. Так что на игру не попадаю.

Питомцу уже отписал, порекомендовав связаться с мастерами ASAP.

Автор: Аджантис Apr 18 2012, 04:48 PM

Будут ли таки правила по преступлениям?

Автор: Eden Apr 19 2012, 08:11 AM

QUOTE(Аджантис @ Apr 18 2012, 08:48 PM)
Будут ли таки правила по преступлениям?
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Да. Сейчас они проходят окончательное утверждение МГ и до конца недели они появятся на сайте.

Автор: Аджантис Apr 19 2012, 10:14 AM

Отлично!

Автор: nikkzz Apr 23 2012, 11:47 AM

Давайте поговорим про огнестрел, ну непонятно мне, непонятно....
Я могу привезти с собой пистолет только заявленного в правилах образца (стреляющего резиновыми пульками), или то модели которые стреляют пластиковыми 2-х миллиметровыми шариками то-же можно?
А то вот что-то не хочется новый пистолет покупать.

Автор: Eden Apr 24 2012, 07:05 AM

QUOTE(nikkzz @ Apr 23 2012, 03:47 PM)
Давайте поговорим про огнестрел, ну непонятно мне, непонятно....
Я могу привезти с собой пистолет только заявленного в правилах образца (стреляющего резиновыми пульками), или то модели которые стреляют пластиковыми 2-х миллиметровыми шариками то-же можно?
А то вот что-то не хочется новый пистолет покупать.
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Только заявленного в правилах образца (стреляющего резиновыми пульками).
Рекомендую также уточнить у мастера-сюжетника обусловленность вводной наличия револьвера.

Автор: Jolaf Apr 24 2012, 08:53 AM

QUOTE(nikkzz @ Apr 23 2012, 03:47 PM)
модели которые стреляют пластиковыми 2-х миллиметровыми шариками то-же можно?

2-миллиметровыми?? Что это?

Если имелось ввиду 6мм, то нет, такое оружие недопустимо в условиях отсутствия на игроках защиты глаз.

Автор: nikkzz Apr 24 2012, 11:03 AM

QUOTE(Jolaf @ Apr 24 2012, 08:53 AM)
2-миллиметровыми?? Что это?

Если имелось ввиду 6мм, то нет, такое оружие недопустимо в условиях отсутствия на игроках защиты глаз.
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Да 6мм....
Спасибо, понятно, и пичально, все таки покупать. sad.gif

Автор: Аджантис Apr 25 2012, 09:47 PM

Как там с правилами по преступлениям, еще не прошли проверку?
И будут ли правила одим фаилом?
Спасиб!

Автор: Аджантис Apr 26 2012, 07:20 AM

Вот важный вопрос - а есть ли у мг заявка на газету игровую?
А то как же утренний кофе без чтения газеты)

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Можно ли теоретически использовать самодельные стрелялки под заводские патроны нерф или эдисон(скорее всего под нерф)?

Автор: Аджантис May 1 2012, 06:44 PM

До игры неделя, повторю вопрос)

QUOTE
Как там с правилами по преступлениям, еще не прошли проверку?
И будут ли правила одим фаилом?
Спасиб!

Автор: Jolaf May 2 2012, 03:43 PM

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Автор: Аджантис May 2 2012, 04:46 PM


спасиб!)

QUOTE
И будут ли правила одим фаилом?

слухи дошли, что сегодня вечером-завтра) спасибо)

QUOTE
Вот важный вопрос - а есть ли у мг заявка на газету игровую?
А то как же утренний кофе без чтения газеты)

м?)

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[h1]Стеклянные банки оптом на базе в Твери[/h1]

[h2]Классические банки стекло[/h2]

Эта категория тары для разных заготовок применяется, обычно, с железными крышками. В таких емкостях в торговых точках реализуются варенье, соки и т.д. Наши стеклянные банки долговечны и универсальны. Они имеют стандартные размеры – от 500мл до 5л. Для хранения запасов на зиму можно использовать не только новые стеклобанки, но и б/у. Главное, чтобы на них не было никаких сколов.

Приобретая железные крышки, предпочтение нужно отдавать крышкам с желтым внутреннем напылением. Такие не ржавеют при длительном хранении припасов в гаражных условиях, не окисляются от уксуса и сока. Важно, чтобы целостность покрытия крышек не была нарушена.

Нужно выбрать правильно продавца банок для заготовок и соответствующих им крышек. В Тверском регионе самые дешевые и качественные стеклобанки и СКО крышки к ним нужно приобретать на сайте http://tverbaza.ru

Стандартная банка хорошо подойдет для консервации ягод, лечо и различных сладостей. Эти рецепты являются многократно испробованными и имеют определенные пропорции. Поэтому, покупка обычной стеклянной банки будет отличным вариантом для любой мастерицы.

[h2]Банки с вынтовыми крышками[/h2]

Твист-Оф стеклобанки весьма удобны в использовании. Однако здесь важно смотреть за состоянием крышки, поскольку со временем она становится тоньше. Завинчивающиеся крышки выдерживают около 2-4 сезона.

Наиболее качественные и дешевые крышки стоит приобретать на оптовой базе в Твери http://trverbaza.ru



































































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